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Old December 22, 2004, 20:00   #1
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Question Identify my FAL lower receiver

How do you tell the difference between a G-1, FN, and Austrian StG-58 lower receiver?

The receiver is marked for the selector switch with S, E, D. The serial number font is the fancier numerals with serifs. The insides have the lightening relief cuts.

The parts are metric, including the pistol grip attachment method. The sights are metric. Action lock lever is 90 degrees to the length of the receiver. The recoil shield shape looks like a Type 1.

Finish may have been redone. It is now blued.

It may have been changed, the buttstock is an original StG-58.

Receiver is a standard, not a para.

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Old December 22, 2004, 20:23   #2
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See this thread:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...ighlight=ID%2A

The metric lower receivers will all be basically the same, with the one of the few obvious differences being the buttpad.
Occasionally the G1's will have a wood pistol grip and buttstock.
Some early STG's may have had the wood pistol grip, but the buttstock had the rubber buttpad, I think.

The G1's are universally a metal buttplate/pad with a spring loaded opening, and the STG58's had a rubber one.

Check FAQ's for all you ever wanted to know.
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Old December 22, 2004, 23:21   #3
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The selector markings indicate a G1 or STG lower.A G1 will have the internal lightening cuts whereas an Austrian STG will not. My G1 has the "fancy" lettering, my STG is pretty much plain block.
Sounds like a G1 to me - nothin' wrong with that
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Internal lightening cuts and "fancy" lettering are characteristics of the Belgian made G1 and Stg lowers. Austrian made Stg lowers have no lightening cuts and the selector lettering is more plain and not as deep IIRC.
Another characteristic unique to Austrian made lowers is the rear shoulder angle below the rear sight. It is steeper and when attached to a nonStg buttstock there will be a mismatch where the shoulders meet.
I am not 100% sure but I believe the Belgian made Stg lowers will have the nonStg shoulder angle which is more horizontal.

There was a thread a few years ago about the differences, may still be findable with search.
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Here it is, pics still there too. Strange it never made it into the reference section but hey

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...threadid=41949
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Old December 23, 2004, 08:01   #6
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Originally posted by Mr pogo
Here it is, pics still there too. Strange it never made it into the reference section but hey

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...threadid=41949
Good job... I vaguely remembered that thread and forgot entirely about your excellent pics.
Thanks again.


HawaiiFALer - did this answer your question?
My last FAL was built on a G1 lower and STG upper. I like the internal lightening cuts.

Moderators: can the thread Mr. Pogo referred to be added to the FAQ list?
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Your welcome Bruce, found another one that I remember.
No pics left any more but reminded me of the "Belgian cut" term, havent heard that one in a long time
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...&threadid=4309

But noobs should read what Roland (usrrd) does say, he is exBGS and very knowledgeable about Euro Fals.
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Yes. You have all been a big help. I guess I have a Belgian made StG-58 lower. No wonder the composite StG stock does not meet the contours of the lower.

Having it lighter is nice. I'm putting together a carbine. 18" StG barrel with short gas tube. This mentioned StG lower. Imbel type 3 upper receiver. Imbel bolt and carrier. Smaller parts might be a mix. L1A1 folding charging handle. Inch safety switch. Appropriate U.S. parts. FSE h/t/s. U.S. stock set. U.S. muzzle thingy. U.S. piston.

Did my lower receiver come blued by the FN factory? It is a decent blue-black. The underlying metal has the machining marks in the factory pattern, that is longitudinal but up-and-down in the recoil shield to butt attaching area.

Thanks for all the help. Merry Christmas to All !
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Old December 23, 2004, 18:03   #9
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The finish could have been several ways, including blued.

What kind of finish was under the pistol grip?
There is virtually the only place it cannot be worn off and remains intact.

If you read the thread posted by Mr. Pogo, it was about virtually the same topic and I posted of helping a friend assemble a rifle from a worn G1 kit into a 18" bbl FAL carbine. It was on an IMBEL receiver, plastic pistol grip and buttstock and it was noticably lighter than my STG 58 17" carbine, with plastic pistol grip and wood buttstock.

I built two more FAL's using the bargin basement price of TAPCO on the G1 lowers on STG front ends, one for a friend and one for me.
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