Addendum,Millions self called "believers" will perish.
Those who worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
GOD is to be loved, OBEYED and worshipped before anything and anyone else.
The TRUE Christian convictions and ethics should NEVER be waived.
Not an inch.
Not for anyone nor any thing.
Not for some flag, nor constitution, nor country, nor government, nor any other human,
nor animals, nor plants, nor fish.
Not even for the planet. Reason why libtards are wrong in all of their platforms.
A True Christian shall not be MOVED.
I consider myself a fairly decent Christian man but threads like this and posts of yours similar to one quoted make you especially and other Christians look bad. I won't even engage some of the posts in this thread from others that are so whack they don't merit it. To date have read 27 translations of the Bible from start to finish including the earlier ones such as 144 Marcionite and the 1611 which had a complete section deleted.<< Your Ass was Added to MOS11C Ignore List for your Fake Self-Righteousness unfounded crap >>-
And then there are those who dislike the delivery of the message.They never Praise the Lord in any of the chats nor in any the forums....NEVER.....they only
show up to KILL the messenger....so that they can KILL the message.
It is pretty obvious and hypocritical.
If you go beyond the Bible to Roman and other historical writings of the day crucifixion was not used for just the crime of thievery but mainly insurrection against Roman authority. The group that Barabbas and his cohorts were associated with were known to steal and often by violent means but notice Luke calls them criminals. Likely thieves and murderers because it's how theA group associated with Barabbas operated but these are hairs not required to split as the concept here is they were both sinners and the one who basically in his dying breaths recognized Jesus as Saviour and was accepted into Heaven.39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!” 40 But the other responded, and rebuking him, said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our crimes; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” 43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Again using NASB as seems to translate well to the under 35 crowd and is well translated with use of the Dead Sea Scrolls and originally first book released was John in 1960 and in entirety in 1963/1965. It saw a rewrite in 1995 then again in 2020 as between 2007 and 2019 (2015, 16, 17, 18 and 2019 saw major pre Christ ministry copies of O.T. scrolls, historical writings done during Christ's life (remember for a scribe to write anything that reflected poorly on Rome was a death sentence so often have to "read between the lines" to find the truth in many) or within fifty years of his death meaning were still people alive who saw and heard Christ that could call B.S. on improperly written accounts. Many new archeological finds proving existence of cities mentioned in the Bible never before located, a memorial dedicated to King David dating back hundreds of years before Christ and the first archeological plus written stories about David found outside the Bible and other finds that were a huge boost to verification of towns, travel routes and lives of people from O.T. to N.T.True Christians,
There is a very interesting portion of Scripture that pertains to this Thread's subject matter.
It's one that must be understood by True believers.
It's one that I think today is pertinent because it tells us what to expect as True believers in the world.
We're not only seeing it in this forum, the internet or this country , but we are seeing it across the globe even today.
It's a prophecy that our Lord gave, and it has always been fulfilled, and it is being fulfilled before us right now.
..... the Gospel of John
Then we have 21 chapters ending below at last few verses of chapter 21:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of mankind. 5 And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not grasp it.
What are our major take aways from the book of John your placing so much emphasis? Do you know why Jesus asked Simon "do you love me" three times and why it chapped Peter's rear end? What are the key passages your so adamant about? Would you teach instead of spew a bold tag line please? Even if someone has a different view on a passage I want to hear as may be lead to realize a different take is likely more accurate than how I looked at it in the past. Why not say Matthew instead of John? I personally get more out of Matthew but all four of the Gospels must be studied and their different viewpoints on same events and lessons keenly observed.15 Now when they had finished breakfast, Jesus *said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?” He *said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He *said to him, “Tend My lambs.” 16 He *said to him again, a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” He *said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He *said to him, “Shepherd My sheep.” 17 He *said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was hurt because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus *said to him, “Tend My sheep.
18 Truly, truly I tell you, when you were younger, you used to put on your belt and walk wherever you wanted; but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will put your belt on you, and bring you where you do not want to go.” 19 Now He said this, indicating by what kind of death he would glorify God. And when He had said this, He *said to him, “Follow Me!”
20 Peter turned around and *saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them—the one who also had leaned back on His chest at the supper and said, “Lord, who is the one who is betraying You?” 21 So Peter, upon seeing him, *said to Jesus, “Lord, and what about this man?” 22 Jesus *said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!” 23 Therefore this account went out among the brothers, that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?”
24 This is the disciple who is testifying about these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true. 25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they were written in detail, I expect that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written.
Matthew 7 (in part):One research group recently estimated that about 100 million people, who call themselves Christians, are under persecution in the world today....about 100 million. Probably more.
The persecution by Islam is the most open persecution against Christians.
It started back in the 7th century and is still going on today in at least 41 Muslim countries.
But Christians have not just been the object of Muslim hatred
.........Christians have been, throughout the whole history of the church, the most hated and the most persecuted people in the world, particularly TRUE Christians. But even nominal "in name only" Christians have been persecuted.
The greatest threat to Christianity in this century is the Christianity of this century. It is a far greater threat than Islam, which can never destroy the gospel. Christendom, however, can easily destroy the gospel and is destroying the gospel. The church today is the greatest threat to real Christianity in the world. The way so many churches are teaching what congregations want to hear and provide "baby sitting" service for free most folks are happy.7 “Do not judge, so that you will not be judged. 2 For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and look, the log is in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye! 6 “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what person is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf of bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? 11 So if you, despite being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
I wasn't going to engage this thread but someone is so far off the tracks just felt responsible to point the train back onto the rails instead of a country gravel road before we had a fatal accident where someone ends up with a surprised look on their face when standing in line with a silly grin till Saint Peter tells them at the gate need to get in the other line headed toward that Great White Throne judgment instead of walking on in like they own the place looking for their mansion. If I just get a decent spot to pitch a tent under a bridge in heaven I will be happy enough. Hope I have deposited a bit of treasure but not assuming anything more than getting in the gate as my past has not been as clean as it should and still mess up on regular occasion.The greatest threat to Christianity today comes from within the church, not without. There are so many people attending church, calling themselves Christians and yet they do not believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God. Many do not believe in Satan, hell or demons, but claim to follow Jesus. There are many pastors who refuse to teach about sin. What a confused and mixed message these people are sending to those who are not believers. In essence, they are claiming to have more wisdom and knowledge than God. That is a very scary thought, for I know the fate of one person who tried to ascend above the throne of God. He was cast from heaven along with one-third of the angels:
“How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; (Isaiah 14:12-13)
People are only fooling themselves if they think they can rise above the teachings of Christ and then claim to be His follower. They are really followers of Satan and have been deceived, just as Eve and Adam were deceived. In their case, they recognized their sin and repented. Many people today are so caught up with playing the Christian without actually walking as one; they do not recognize their sin. They think they are spiritually on point and all the people quoting Scripture are freaks, who do not interpret the Bible in light of our current society.
Let me explain something. Jesus was a radical. He did not embrace the norms of society. He did not praise the works of the religious leaders. He called them hypocrites and white washed tombs. He knew they were no longer teaching and walking according to God’s Word. They were walking according to the traditions of man. They embraced man’s way over God’s Word. Jesus Himself said the Pharisees, the great religious leaders, were heading for hell:
For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:20).
I think the warning Jesus was giving each one of us was very simple and very clear, “Do not follow man; follow God.” The only way you can truly follow the Lord is to know His Word. Without the Bible, there is no way you can know God or understand the guidance He has provided for our lives. He has a great plan for every one of us, but if we choose to walk in ignorance of Him and His Word, we will miss out on His will for our lives.
As a Christian, if you choose to continue in sin and ignore God’s Word, you certainly have the freedom to follow this course of action, or inaction. You can walk in ignorance of God and His Word, but I beg of you—I plead with you—please do not tell people you are a Christian. Do not speak out when a real Christian writes a blog or a post about the biblical perspective on the moral issues in our society today. I say this because you do not know God’s Word, so you have nothing to share. All you have is your own opinion, which is foolish in the light of God’s wisdom. When you say, “The Bible does not say that,” you are only putting your biblical ignorance on display for all to see.
It is better to remain silent, not just to conceal spiritual ignorance, but to avoid causing confusion and division. When people speak out about what the Bible teaches without ever reading it, they are confusing people who are not Christians and causing division in the church. Non-Christians commonly believe the Bible is open to interpretation because they hear conflicting beliefs by so-called Christians. More often than not, the conflict is not over God’s Word, but the lack of knowledge people have of the Bible. They say the Bible says something it does not say.
Here are a few common misconceptions people like to say:
“Jesus loves everyone, so no one is going to hell,” but the Bible says:
And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day (John 12:47-48).
“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats” (Matthew 25:31-32).
“The Bible says not to judge others,” but the Bible really says:
But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.” (1 Corinthians 5:11-13)
“God does not judge homosexuality, only lust,” but the Bible says:
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them (Leviticus 20:13).
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due (Romans 1:26-27).
“All roads lead to heaven,” but the Bible says:
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6)
I could continue, but I would encourage every person who claims to be a Christian to do their homework. Before you say, “Thus says the Lord, …” which carries a great responsibility, read your Bible and do the research. What does the Bible really say and what does God call His children to be.
All Christians are sinners, saved by grace. We all fall short of the glory of God. None of us should ever put ourselves above another person, but should share the Gospel of Jesus Christ in love, praying for those who are perishing. Do not get caught up with non-essential things but hold true to the doctrine of salvation.
Heed the words of Paul and avoid those who would bring division to the body of Christ: Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them (Romans 16:7).