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Entreprise receivers? The Collection Sticky!

GunHo109

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I got a tracking number today. I figure I'll slap it together, and hit it with some Duracoat. Then I'm done with FALS. I'm going to try building AK's. Maybe a nice SVD sniper rifle or something along that line. Hopefully there won't be any dead-ends on there parts kits.

I'll let you guys know how it turns out. I should be able to pick up the reciever on the 7th of Aug.

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GunHo109 said:
Hopefully there won't be any dead-ends on there parts kits.

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There are already dead ends in the AK world. No receiver problems but other "issues".

The number of kits are limited as far as I can tell. No more coming I think other than what may be sitting in bonded custom houses right now. Due to the new laws no more "real" barrels (just like with FALS). They found out we were excercising our freedoms and having too much fun. Damn free men, who do we think we are??

Also, SVD snipers use a different type of receiver than an AK, more like an SKS and there are none of THOSE kits around anyway.

I believe our days at this hobby are numbered. But in the meantime...........Entreprise is still a thorn in MY side........... :redface:
 

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No more AK kits! Frack!

But then again a full rifle is still cheaper. I only have 1 AK. I might as well pair up. And I still might buy an SVD or something of the sort. We have a gun show coming soon and I might start checking out my options.

Sorry you guys are still waiting. I was tempted to ask for my money back, but after 90 days, I'm not sure if you can still dispute it on your credit card!?.

none the less I havn't seen my reciever yet and I'm not sure if there will be any problems yet.

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Receiver came in today. It looks fine so far except that it's not parked. So I guess there is hope for you that pre-paid as I did.

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I spoke with Lily @ Entreprise Arms for awhile the other day. I told her the receiver was alot better than the one I had gotten 2 years ago. It fit the lower much better and the engraveing was alot nicer. She said the hold up they've been haveing is in part due to the company they use for parkarizing. If you decide to get it in the white and not parked, you can get your receivers alot quicker. It will save you several weeks off your wait time. Pretty much all there makeing right now is Metric type 3's. And they are makeing them as fast as they can.

I was at a gunshow today, and came across a South african congo Fal. I was tempted, but I decided to wait a few more months before I decide wether or not to do another build. I'm still looking for an SVD.

All politics aside, I ordered another Type 3 in the white.

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I ordered 3 of the new receivers back when they were still 225$ prepaid. Today they are 290, compared to the FAL-Files DSA price of 350.
They arrived a week ago.

So this past week I sat down and built up 3 imbel kits on the Entreprise receivers. What a total pain in the ass. The finish is good, but required a lot of work.


Out of the three only one was able to hand time correctly. And yes tried all the barrels I have (5) in the ones that didn't. Best I could get was 9'oclock on one of them.

The other was 10. But the one at 10 I couldn't even screw the barrel in more then have way. So I applied some lapping compound to the threads and kept working the barrel in and out until it was seated.

Since I don't have a lathe I took a block of oak and drilled a hole in it just barely large enough so the threaded portion of the barrel would sit on it.
I then used some spray adhesive to attach a piece of sand paper to the block, cut out a hole in the sand paper. Couple squirts of oil. Drop the barrel in and twist. Kinda looked like I was trying to start a fire. I started with 220 wet dry and moved up to 400. Took forever on the one to get the shoulder set back.

I had to do the lapping compound trick on one of the gas tube threads also.

On one of the receivers the locking shoulder hole wasn't perfectly formed. A lot of metal from the ejector block had been pushed up into the shoulder hole and they never removed it. It looked like the EB slot was too small and they had to really push the block in, moving metal in the process. Some time spent with a small round file fixed it.

Now the worse thing was the mag wells. On all three receivers they were too small. More so in the width then the length. They would cut metal off the magazines as you tried to insert it, they were so tight.
Took a lot of work with the Dremal, but finally got them so that a mag could easily be insert and would drop clear when the mag release was pressed.

No problems with fit to the lower, bolt rails, or top cover.
But as it was took almost 8 hours work to get three of them barrelled, timed, headspaced, and the mag wells fixed.

I am all for saving some cash, but Entreprises time to deliver isn't any quicker then DSA's, maybe ever a little longer.
They charge your CC at the time of order, not time of shipping (DSA does ToS)
And then the amount of time required to get them working.
Not worth it IMHO.
I won't be ordering any more.

To date I have built 1 Hesse, 2 Centuriers, 3 Imbels, and 1 DSA. I probably was able to get all 7 of those rifles up and running in less time then one Entreprise.

To be fair, I did not contact them to complain. By the time I discovered the magwell problem, all three had already been worked on in some small manner.
The serial numbers were 30 numbers apart from the lowest to the highest if that matters.

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I hate being the one to open a thread that's been dead for 2 years but, I was wondering if anyone had any information on the newest Entreprise rifles and receivers. I stumbled on to their website after drooling over the DSA site. Has Entreprise improved since 2007 or should they be ignored, and I should just continue to look at Gunbroker, gun shows, or DSA? ANy info would be greatly appreciated thanks alot.
 

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I recently received my new Type 3 Metric Enterprise receiver.

Like a fool I didn't take photo's before and after but will related my experiences.

It went together easier than my last Imbel.
The barrel timed right up. First try, with only anti seize and the proper wrenches.
The bolt carrier ran true and smoothly.

Quite simply almost everything went in like it was the original, if not better.

The only stumbling points were a too tight bolt hold open, a tight takedown latch, most likely too much Gun Kote on my part.


Would I buy another Enterprise Metric receiver? No, I'd buy 3 this time.
 

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Enterprise fal

I purchased an enterprise built fal from a dealer six years ago. Runs like a top. Haven't had any problems. Tried to contact them about finding out a build date and I never heard back. Doesn't matter much, just glad I got a good one!
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i ordered 3 of the brit cut receivers in NOV and they came in at the end of DEC two of the three brit kits timed up perfectly with the the breaching washers that came with the kits i had to order one about .0015 thicker for the third the finish was perfect lugs pressed in with a nice press and i only found a couple minor burrs on two of the receivers they locked up tight just like they came from the factory. i started reading some threads about quality issues after i orderd them and got worried but after assembley of three, they just fell together i couldent be more happy with the quality and fit, finish and functionality.
 

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And this wouldn't be the first time that Entreprise tried this shill garbage. :skull: They just don't seem to learn that as long as their customer service is crap, and their receivers are crap, that their name will be, umm, less than optimum. ;)
 

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i am just reporting the feedback on the recivers that i got i am more of a reader not a post-er i was just on the files looking for some info about original lithgow recivers and i started reading about enterprise but i had already made my order for 3 brit cut recievers and after i got them and assembled them i thought i would pass on my findings. i had one metric type 3 that i got along time ago and i was happy with how it went together. i since have ordered 2 dsa recievers witch i prefer since they are forged. you can see who i am by my sales on GB and e-bay (crazynoto) or moran motorsports.com thats who i work for, not enterprise.
 

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This seems to be an old thread... but here we go..

I've ordered an inch cut from Entreprise and it's in the post to my FFL right now. So far I've found Albert at Entreprise to be extremely helpful. I've got a complete Brit inch kit so after my receiver has gone through Kalifornia DROS I'll be sending the complete thing with receiver back to them for a build. I am going to do the Master Build and have them re-finish the rifle. I was wondering if you guys can advise anything else thats not on the Master build list that I should have done from the additional FAL services while I'm at it: http://www.entreprise.com/fnfalsmith.htm

The tune up package looks interesting for $75 but I'm wondering how much of this is including in the build?

I was also looking at the 'Heat treat upper receiver to 40Rc' and was wondering if I should have this done for $75

Thanks for any advise!

Steve
 

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This seems to be an old thread... but here we go..

I've ordered an inch cut from Entreprise and it's in the post to my FFL right now. So far I've found Albert at Entreprise to be extremely helpful. I've got a complete Brit inch kit so after my receiver has gone through Kalifornia DROS I'll be sending the complete thing with receiver back to them for a build. I am going to do the Master Build and have them re-finish the rifle. I was wondering if you guys can advise anything else thats not on the Master build list that I should have done from the additional FAL services while I'm at it: http://www.entreprise.com/fnfalsmith.htm

The tune up package looks interesting for $75 but I'm wondering how much of this is including in the build?

I was also looking at the 'Heat treat upper receiver to 40Rc' and was wondering if I should have this done for $75

Thanks for any advise!

Steve
I believe that it is supposed to be better if the receiver is differentially hardened only in stressed areas so there is still malleability elsewhere to absorb stress forces without cracking as it might if the whole receiver was hardened and embrittled. IOW, being hardened everywhere doesn't make it more durable.
 

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I believe that it is supposed to be better if the receiver is differentially hardened only in stressed areas so there is still malleability elsewhere to absorb stress forces without cracking as it might if the whole receiver was hardened and embrittled. IOW, being hardened everywhere doesn't make it more durable.
I certainly see your point!.. so it's a question of which is better.. to not harden everything or to harden everything?
 
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