FN LAR PARA 50.63 bolt stop delete

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Looking at an original FN brochure, the LAR PARA (50.63) is described as having the following features: single (300 m) battle sight, folding cocking handle, no bolt stop, no carrying handle, short flash-hider only, weight: 8.26 lbs.

No bolt stop has me confused. Was it common to delete the bolt catch assembly on the 50.63 variant to reduce overall weight?

I know a rare aluminum (Hiduminium Alloy) G-Prefix model exists, but appears they were 50.64 configuration.

It'd be welcomed to hear from an expert willing to go into detail on this

 

[NFADLR]

What your calling a bolt catch most here and other RKI's call BHO or bolt hold open.

I own a few in gunsouth Trussville and Birmingham variants and they all have BHO's.

IM not an owner of the inch variant so cant speak with experience on that version.

 

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This is what I'm referencing. Bolt stop wasnt my choice of word!

Ive read that certain L1A1 models dont lock the bolt back on an empty magazine, and require pushing up the bolt hold open lever to lock back the bolt

 

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[kurbelgehause]

I say tomato, you say tomahto….

 

[lockedandloaded]

Right, I get it. But its factory literature that is making me uncertain

 

[kurbelgehause]

Try English names for car parts. Bonnet for hood, wing for fender, boot for trunk.

where is it written that FAL parts can only have one name?

 

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This was a Gun South, Trussville era brochure

 

[OLDMANPBK]

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/fal-bolt-stop-question.180064/
"There were a couple of versions of the FAL that were designed with absolutely no BHO as yours is, but they were the 50.63 para model as issued to Belgian paras & later a lot of the rest of the army standardized on the handier para configuration, even if they weren't paratroopers."
Found this online. Guess the paras didn't want the BHO catching on stuff.

 

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I found the correct answer. You can kiss my "boot"

Last Shot Hold Open 'FIX' for the FAL/L1A1

 

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OLDMANPBK, you're spot on! Thanks. I dont own the rifle, just researching it. I couldn't understand what FN meant in their brochure regarding the 50.63 not having a bolt stop feature.

 

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The purpose for the "no bolt stop" feature is claimed to be:

-Preventing the bolt release lever from snagging on gear
-Preventing debris from entering the receiver action
-Reducing weight on 50.63 Para & other variants

OLDMANPBK posted a link to another forum, which contained a link back to this forum which cant be opened due to it being deleted . Can any of the moderators retrieve it?

 

[NFADLR]

My American uncle that lived in/on Australia called the cars windshield a windscreen, so yes I can relate.

Was going by the FAL Bible for terminology on BHO.

Try English names for car parts. Bonnet for hood, wing for fender, boot for trunk.

where is it written that FAL parts can only have one name?

 

[lockedandloaded]

Would like to assume that ejector block is aluminum. Additional weight savings.

Any experts have details for the Hiduminium reciever rifles?
What a rare version those must be

 

[NFADLR]

Hell No.

That FA or SA EBlock be steel ( metric ).

Gunz of a FN FAL original FN Paras 50.61 steel lower 50.64 aluminum or hindinium, 50.62 is a real rare version only ever found by long time FAL aficionados.

I held a G series FN FAL before I could walk.

Would like to assume that ejector block is aluminum. Additional weight savings.

Any experts have details for the Hiduminium reciever rifles?
What a rare version those must be

 

[lockedandloaded]

I held a G series FN FAL before I could walk.

I've cuddled a few Steyr sear-cuts, Howco's, and Brownings back in the day myself

 

[The Chief]

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This is what I'm referencing. Bolt stop wasnt my choice of word!

Ive read that certain L1A1 models dont lock the bolt back on an empty magazine, and require pushing up the bolt hold open lever to lock back the bolt

Odd thing, if you look closely, the photo does show a BHO installed

 

[OLDMANPBK]

Odd thing, if you look closely, the photo does show a BHO installed

It shows it on the 50.64 but you can't tell on the 50.63 in that picture.

 

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Odd thing, if you look closely, the photo does show a BHO installed

Thats the 50.64 version. The 50.63 version doesnt show it

 

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OLDMANPBK, we both replied at the same time again!

 

[1feral1]

In Canada this was called simply the HOD, AKA the Hold-Open Device. It would self-engage when the last rd was fired in a magazine, keeping the breech-block and breech-block carrier to the rear until manually depressed to close it. One could also use the cocking handle assembly to release the working parts forward.

 

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[kysjck]

The Brits had a habit of focusing on irrelevant (what ifs) that didn't improve the rifle. The bolt catch isn't a problem as originally designed. Removing it or deleting the last shot hold open are net losses in mag change efficiency. Ironically they made the best mag catch that snags straps etc. more than any bolt catch. The early metric bolt catch with a wide foot is the best, including the last shot hold open, a good feature. Ironically again the Brits demanded a folding rear sight that snags on all kinds of things including cloths. Improved clearance for optical sights is the only good reason for a folding sight. The list of bad ideas that came from many countries is long. I set up my rifles to work well with the best ergonomics period. Blind adherence to bad features just be cause some bureaucrat thought it MIGHT be needed is nuts. The US has our share of these too. The AR/M16 forward assist for example.